Where is Windows? Date: Feb 3, 2012 11:44:22 AM PST Author: ProRemote We have a lot of requests for Windows and many people are wondering why it is taking so long. I've decided to let you all in on a secret: Far Out Labs is a one person company. I handle all aspects of the business and unfortunately when sales get very low I am forced to take small contract jobs to make up the lost income. The problem lately is that every time a new version of iOS gets jailbroken my sales go from about one copy a day of the full version to zero. As it is now we have not sold a single copy of ProRemote in over three weeks due to widespread pirating of ProRemote. As a result I am forced to look for contract work so that I can feed my family and this will again delay Windows and other ProRemote features in general. (we have a lot planned still for ProRemote!) I have tried to lower the price of the full version from $150 to $80 from listening to our customers. I even created a light edition so people could pay for only the features they need. ProRemote LE costs 10 bucks but after a 30% cut from Apple I only receive seven dollars for each copy of ProRemote LE. Since I no longer sell the full version [as it is available on every pirate site you can think of] I no longer make a living working on this product. I am not sure when we will finish Windows support as I don't know how much longer we will be in business. I assure you that I am working on a new Windows driver right now and I hope it sees the light of day. While I don't expect anyone to really care about our situation and I'm not really asking anything different from anyone (people will always pirate software), I think it is only fair to let our paying customers know why there is a delay. Thanks for your patience and understanding. alex Last modified by ProRemote on Feb 3 2012 11:48AM   Reply to this Post

Where is Windows? Date: Aug 31, 2012 1:27:32 PM PDT Author: XweAponX This is the reason I signed on in here today, thank you for posting. I'm sorry that you are taking a loss on this, as it is a worthwhile project. The 150 price tag was your first deterrent, even engineers like me have to think about that, the cost of a Pro Tools Workstation either on Windows or Mac is prohibitive in itself. The LE version puts this into the arena of "more accessible," even with Apple's percentage would not hurt so much is there were a lot of people interested. At 150, people immediately just go on to the next app, at 80, that's better, but it still excludes a lot of people. At 10? I would buy it immediately, but one thing prohibits me: I use a Windows workstation. I acquire software, Pro Tools Plugins, Helper apps, remotes, Shuttles, and even iPhone apps on the basis of two things: Cost #1, and #2, am I going to use it enough to validate a purchase. Then, we have to worry about if these applications we have laid out over a grand for, will even work, especially with the big ugly appliance-based Windows 8 stating at us. Mac is difficult enough as is, with each version of any application you pay 500 dollars for not even working in the next version os OSX. At least Windows based apps are friendly enough to work on Windows XP, Vista and 7. Since I have heard that Microsoft is not going to consider backward-compatibility in Windows 8, that scares not only me but every other Windows user in the world. At 10 bucks, the moment you make a version that will run my Pro Tools 6.4, through a Windows XP system, I'll buy it immediately and so will a lot of other people. But for the full version at 60 bucks, that still is very steep. As far as Pirating goes, people usually try an app out, and if they like it, they buy it, and I've done this with all of the Plugins I use, if something worked good, I got it, else I tossed it. But one other thing I noticed about apps that are available, the higher the cost, the easier it is to find pirated copies of it. This is a sad but true fact. But the reason why this happens, is because companies that hold copyrights are too busy suing people at the slightest "infraction" (Ie, some guy made beautiful Watercolours of some Star Wars imagery, and was sued by Lucas for it). Don't get me started on Apple suing everybody in sight for rounded corners, this current thing they got going with Samsung makes me ill. I have Pro Tools 6.4 with a Digi 001 because I bought it back when they were new. I've been using it all this time and Digidesign/Avid no longer has any interest in the program and hardware. I unfortunately do, this is my home workstation. At work, I use the best HD workstation the people I work for can get, but here, I just can't afford it. So I have to use the things I have already bought, and whatever meager help I can get from companies, like yourself, who develop helper apps I can use. Right now, I use Mobile Mouse/Air Mouse, and also a Contour Shuffle. I'd really like to have THIS app though, I'll buy it the moment I can run it on Windows. I hope you can develop it. Sounds like what you need are people who can help you out, well I'll pray that happens. Good Luck, I'll keep my eye in here, I hope something happens for you that will allow you to keep working on apps like this.   Reply to this Post

I was just reading through the posts Date: Aug 31, 2012 1:40:34 PM PDT Author: XweAponX And I have a suggestion. I saw that Apple had rejected several of your upgrades. Meanwhile, they allow people to make as many really bad and useless apps as they can, it is so hard to find anything useful in the App store lately. I've been using an iphone for 3 years, when I started, there were not as many of these apps as there are now. Now, you just find page after page of "file downloaders" or 'Content players" - Page after Page after page of junk apps. May I suggest a change in venue, try Cydia. You can package the app and sell it direct, and not have to worry about apple's 30 percent of silver coin.   Reply to this Post

Where is Windows? Date: Sep 2, 2012 10:14:51 AM PDT Author: ProRemote Originally Posted by XweAponX: This is the reason I signed on in here today, thank you for posting. I'm sorry that you are taking a loss on this, as it is a worthwhile project. The 150 price tag was your first deterrent, even engineers like me have to think about that, the cost of a Pro Tools Workstation either on Windows or Mac is prohibitive in itself. The LE version puts this into the arena of "more accessible," even with Apple's percentage would not hurt so much is there were a lot of people interested. At 150, people immediately just go on to the next app, at 80, that's better, but it still excludes a lot of people. At 10? I would buy it immediately, but one thing prohibits me: I use a Windows workstation. I acquire software, Pro Tools Plugins, Helper apps, remotes, Shuttles, and even iPhone apps on the basis of two things: Cost #1, and #2, am I going to use it enough to validate a purchase. Then, we have to worry about if these applications we have laid out over a grand for, will even work, especially with the big ugly appliance-based Windows 8 stating at us. Mac is difficult enough as is, with each version of any application you pay 500 dollars for not even working in the next version os OSX. At least Windows based apps are friendly enough to work on Windows XP, Vista and 7. Since I have heard that Microsoft is not going to consider backward-compatibility in Windows 8, that scares not only me but every other Windows user in the world. [snip] Right now, I use Mobile Mouse/Air Mouse, and also a Contour Shuffle. I'd really like to have THIS app though, I'll buy it the moment I can run it on Windows. I hope you can develop it. Sounds like what you need are people who can help you out, well I'll pray that happens. Good Luck, I'll keep my eye in here, I hope something happens for you that will allow you to keep working on apps like this. Thanks for all your feedback, it's very valuable! We are still working on Windows. The work is almost done (we replaced a ton of code) and it finally loads in ProTools which was the big problem with the current betas (aside from the fact that they only work on WinXP)... The next beta will work on Win7 and is much simpler to install as well. I'm hoping it will be available next month but we've missed every Windows target date I've set, mostly because no one is available to do the work...it isn't difficult work so we have no excuse!   Reply to this Post

Not interested in Windows but sympathies Date: May 5, 2013 11:07:07 AM PDT Author: henryrobinett I had a feeling this was the case. A lot of these audio companies are one to two man operations. And music in general is nothing but a dirty pirate operation these days it seems. I paid full price and am always interested in supporting the work and creative endeavors of those creative people. IN the scheme of things $100 is cheap for a controller. For iPad apps it's definitely on the high side. I wish there were a way to protect your investment from piracy and to guarantee enough income to warrant further development. Word of mouth sells and support and involvement on the forum also is a selling point. This is a cool product and too good to let it lay wasted. I hope you continue developing it.   Reply to this Post

Just to say thanks. Date: Mar 13, 2014 1:21:24 PM PDT Author: Stonedhouse Just want to add my part in that I am one very happy user of your app and I am so glad I purchased it - being a drummer and working in my own Protools studio it is a dream to have just my iPhone by the kit and to be able to do numerous takes without having to get up and dash in and out of the Control room all the time - or to have to drag my Mac out in to the studio. Piracy is spoiling the music (and film) industry on many levels and I applaud you for coming here and being open about this. People think there is little harm done to the big corporates by downloading pirated software but they fail to realise the effect it can have on the smaller developers who are usually the best and most flexible in bringing cool and very useable apps like these. Keep it up fella.   Reply to this Post

Where is Windows? Date: Aug 1, 2014 2:05:17 AM PDT Author: toreleiren I am currently using Windows 7, Cubase 7, and downloaded the PROREMOTE LE without knowing that there is NOT any Windows downlads or support for the time being....So, what is happening, and how long does it take to get it??   Reply to this Post

Where is Windows? Date: Aug 1, 2014 7:04:58 AM PDT Author: ProRemote Originally Posted by toreleiren: I am currently using Windows 7, Cubase 7, and downloaded the PROREMOTE LE without knowing that there is NOT any Windows downlads or support for the time being....So, what is happening, and how long does it take to get it?? Please contact Apple for a refund. Windows was halted due to lack of resources and demand.   Reply to this Post