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ProRemote
Where is Windows?
Date: Feb 3, 2012 11:44:22 AM PST
Author: ProRemote

We have a lot of requests for Windows and many people are wondering why it is taking so long.

I've decided to let you all in on a secret: Far Out Labs is a one person company. I handle all
aspects of the business and unfortunately when sales get very low I am forced to take small
contract jobs to make up the lost income.

The problem lately is that every time a new version of iOS gets jailbroken my sales go from about
one copy a day of the full version to zero. As it is now we have not sold a single copy of ProRemote
in over three weeks due to widespread pirating of ProRemote. As a result I am forced to look for
contract work so that I can feed my family and this will again delay Windows and other ProRemote
features in general. (we have a lot planned still for ProRemote!)

I have tried to lower the price of the full version from $150 to $80 from listening to our customers.
I even created a light edition so people could pay for only the features they need. ProRemote LE
costs 10 bucks but after a 30% cut from Apple I only receive seven dollars for each copy of
ProRemote LE. Since I no longer sell the full version [as it is available on every pirate site you can
think of] I no longer make a living working on this product.

I am not sure when we will finish Windows support as I don't know how much longer we will be in
business. I assure you that I am working on a new Windows driver right now and I hope it sees the
light of day.

While I don't expect anyone to really care about our situation and I'm not really asking anything different from anyone (people will
always pirate software), I think it is only fair to let our paying customers know why there is a delay.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.
alex
Last modified by ProRemote on Feb 3 2012 11:48AM
 

 

XweAponX
Where is Windows?
Date: Aug 31, 2012 1:27:32 PM PDT
Author: XweAponX

This is the reason I signed on in here today, thank you
for posting. I'm sorry that you are taking a loss on this,
as it is a worthwhile project. The 150 price tag was your
first deterrent, even engineers like me have to think
about that, the cost of a Pro Tools Workstation either on
Windows or Mac is prohibitive in itself. The LE version
puts this into the arena of "more accessible," even with
Apple's percentage would not hurt so much is there were
a lot of people interested. At 150, people immediately
just go on to the next app, at 80, that's better, but it still
excludes a lot of people. At 10? I would buy it
immediately, but one thing prohibits me: I use a
Windows workstation.

I acquire software, Pro Tools Plugins, Helper apps,
remotes, Shuttles, and even iPhone apps on the basis of
two things: Cost #1, and #2, am I going to use it enough
to validate a purchase.

Then, we have to worry about if these applications we
have laid out over a grand for, will even work, especially
with the big ugly appliance-based Windows 8 stating at
us. Mac is difficult enough as is, with each version of any
application you pay 500 dollars for not even working in
the next version os OSX. At least Windows based apps
are friendly enough to work on Windows XP, Vista and 7.
Since I have heard that Microsoft is not going to consider
backward-compatibility in Windows 8, that scares not
only me but every other Windows user in the world.

At 10 bucks, the moment you make a version that will
run my Pro Tools 6.4, through a Windows XP system, I'll
buy it immediately and so will a lot of other people. But
for the full version at 60 bucks, that still is very steep. As
far as Pirating goes, people usually try an app out, and if
they like it, they buy it, and I've done this with all of the
Plugins I use, if something worked good, I got it, else I
tossed it. But one other thing I noticed about apps that
are available, the higher the cost, the easier it is to find
pirated copies of it. This is a sad but true fact. But the
reason why this happens, is because companies that hold
copyrights are too busy suing people at the slightest
"infraction" (Ie, some guy made beautiful Watercolours
of some Star Wars imagery, and was sued by Lucas for
it). Don't get me started on Apple suing everybody in
sight for rounded corners, this current thing they got
going with Samsung makes me ill.

I have Pro Tools 6.4 with a Digi 001 because I bought it
back when they were new. I've been using it all this time
and Digidesign/Avid no longer has any interest in the
program and hardware. I unfortunately do, this is my
home workstation. At work, I use the best HD
workstation the people I work for can get, but here, I just
can't afford it. So I have to use the things I have already
bought, and whatever meager help I can get from
companies, like yourself, who develop helper apps I can
use.

Right now, I use Mobile Mouse/Air Mouse, and also a
Contour Shuffle. I'd really like to have THIS app though,
I'll buy it the moment I can run it on Windows. I hope you
can develop it. Sounds like what you need are people
who can help you out, well I'll pray that happens.

Good Luck, I'll keep my eye in here, I hope something
happens for you that will allow you to keep working on
apps like this.
 

 

XweAponX
I was just reading through the posts
Date: Aug 31, 2012 1:40:34 PM PDT
Author: XweAponX

And I have a suggestion. I saw that Apple had rejected
several of your upgrades. Meanwhile, they allow people
to make as many really bad and useless apps as they
can, it is so hard to find anything useful in the App store
lately. I've been using an iphone for 3 years, when I
started, there were not as many of these apps as there
are now. Now, you just find page after page of "file
downloaders" or 'Content players" - Page after Page
after page of junk apps. May I suggest a change in
venue, try Cydia. You can package the app and sell it
direct, and not have to worry about apple's 30 percent of
silver coin.
 

 

ProRemote
Where is Windows?
Date: Sep 2, 2012 10:14:51 AM PDT
Author: ProRemote

Originally Posted by XweAponX:
This is the reason I signed on in here today, thank you
for posting. I'm sorry that you are taking a loss on this,
as it is a worthwhile project. The 150 price tag was your
first deterrent, even engineers like me have to think
about that, the cost of a Pro Tools Workstation either on
Windows or Mac is prohibitive in itself. The LE version
puts this into the arena of "more accessible," even with
Apple's percentage would not hurt so much is there were
a lot of people interested. At 150, people immediately
just go on to the next app, at 80, that's better, but it still
excludes a lot of people. At 10? I would buy it
immediately, but one thing prohibits me: I use a
Windows workstation.

I acquire software, Pro Tools Plugins, Helper apps,
remotes, Shuttles, and even iPhone apps on the basis of
two things: Cost #1, and #2, am I going to use it enough
to validate a purchase.

Then, we have to worry about if these applications we
have laid out over a grand for, will even work, especially
with the big ugly appliance-based Windows 8 stating at
us. Mac is difficult enough as is, with each version of any
application you pay 500 dollars for not even working in
the next version os OSX. At least Windows based apps
are friendly enough to work on Windows XP, Vista and 7.
Since I have heard that Microsoft is not going to consider
backward-compatibility in Windows 8, that scares not
only me but every other Windows user in the world.

[snip]

Right now, I use Mobile Mouse/Air Mouse, and also a
Contour Shuffle. I'd really like to have THIS app though,
I'll buy it the moment I can run it on Windows. I hope you
can develop it. Sounds like what you need are people
who can help you out, well I'll pray that happens.

Good Luck, I'll keep my eye in here, I hope something
happens for you that will allow you to keep working on
apps like this.


Thanks for all your feedback, it's very valuable! We are still
working on Windows. The work is almost done (we replaced a
ton of code) and it finally loads in ProTools which was the big
problem with the current betas (aside from the fact that they
only work on WinXP)... The next beta will work on Win7 and is
much simpler to install as well. I'm hoping it will be available
next month but we've missed every Windows target date I've
set, mostly because no one is available to do the work...it isn't
difficult work so we have no excuse!
 

 

henryrobinett
Not interested in Windows but sympathies
Date: May 5, 2013 11:07:07 AM PDT
Author: henryrobinett

I had a feeling this was the case. A lot of these audio
companies are one to two man operations. And music in
general is nothing but a dirty pirate operation these days it
seems. I paid full price and am always interested in
supporting the work and creative endeavors of those creative
people. IN the scheme of things $100 is cheap for a
controller. For iPad apps it's definitely on the high side. I
wish there were a way to protect your investment from piracy
and to guarantee enough income to warrant further
development. Word of mouth sells and support and
involvement on the forum also is a selling point. This is a
cool product and too good to let it lay wasted. I hope you
continue developing it.
 

 

Stonedhouse
Just to say thanks.
Date: Mar 13, 2014 1:21:24 PM PDT
Author: Stonedhouse

Just want to add my part in that I am one very happy user of
your app and I am so glad I purchased it - being a drummer
and working in my own Protools studio it is a dream to have
just my iPhone by the kit and to be able to do numerous
takes without having to get up and dash in and out of the
Control room all the time - or to have to drag my Mac out in
to the studio.

Piracy is spoiling the music (and film) industry on many levels
and I applaud you for coming here and being open about
this. People think there is little harm done to the big
corporates by downloading pirated software but they fail to
realise the effect it can have on the smaller developers who
are usually the best and most flexible in bringing cool and
very useable apps like these.

Keep it up fella.

 

 

toreleiren
Where is Windows?
Date: Aug 1, 2014 2:05:17 AM PDT
Author: toreleiren

I am currently using Windows 7, Cubase 7, and downloaded the PROREMOTE LE without knowing that there is NOT any Windows downlads or support for the time being....So, what is happening, and how long does it take to get it??
 

 

ProRemote
Where is Windows?
Date: Aug 1, 2014 7:04:58 AM PDT
Author: ProRemote

Originally Posted by toreleiren:
I am currently using Windows 7, Cubase 7, and downloaded the
PROREMOTE LE without knowing that there is NOT any Windows
downlads or support for the time being....So, what is happening, and
how long does it take to get it??


Please contact Apple for a refund. Windows was halted due to lack of
resources and demand.
 

 
 
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